Panorama Legal Weapon!!

[harvey_s]

Wasn't this the very problem with the midlands grooming gangs - Everyone pussyfooting round the real problem and pretending it's nothing to do with race?

Did you stop reading halfway through to start typing?... see item 2...
it's not really a problem the crims shooting each other and more innocent people are killed by choking on their own food.

[20's plenty]

A cut down .410 cartridge will fit any manner of firearms - these criminals are not interested in any sort of accuracy, if it can be physically stuffed in, no matter how loose, it's good to go. More and more regulation just moves the problem. If an antique pistol is commanding £2,500 then there's people out there who would consider the return achieved by making a batch from scratch worthwhile.

And they are- BBC news yesterday-"Gun factory" uncovered on Hailsham industrial estate.

[tacfoley]

Mods - PLEASE merge the two threads on this subject!

[marky123]

Two flaws in that statement....

#1 : "Young black men who want to kill each other" - no need for the racial slant, it's, barring the odd few, criminals killing each other.

#2 : This is not problem and its a very cheap solution to the ineffectiveness of the judiciary.

Truth hurt?

[harry mac]

Having watched the prog, I find it disturbing that the .44 Russian cartridge is on the obsolete calibres list. Seems to be a bit of a hole in the law with some cartridges being relatively easy to fabricate from other similar cases. A muzzle loading colleague has also been known to fabricate 12 bore BP pinfire cartridges just to see if he could - they worked fine but were far too much trouble to be a worthwhile in quantity. Once again it seems that the law is a little naïve and over simplistic. I suppose given enough resource and motivation almost any cartridge could be home made.

They're ALL easy to make if you know what you're doing; but doing so without an FAC is already illegal. That's the whole point of this thread.